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Heavy snow and rutted streets wreaking havoc and damage on cars



Heavy snow and rutted streets wreaking havoc  and damage  on cars

Heavy snow and rutted streets wreaking havoc and damage on cars

Published on January 14th, 2009
Published on July 10th, 2009
Staff ~ The Moose Jaw Times Herald RSS Feed
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Barrett Auto Service , CAA , Moose Jaw , Regina

Driving on Moose Jaw streets is like being a road apple bouncing around in a cardboard box, according to Reece Barrett, owner of Barrett Auto Service.

He knows which streets are the worst. Customers bring their car in for repairs and tell him.

"First Avenue is absolutely brutal. It has big ruts and it's hard to plow because it's very narrow. Residents have nowhere to put the snow and it's not a priority street so the ruts keep getting bigger," Barrett said.

All this snow is a mixed blessing for his business. Some customers are cancelling appointments because they can't get out of their driveway, while others are smashing the bottom of their car in the ruts.

"It's not only body damage, but the undercarriage, too. People are losing their oil pans, damaging the transmission, spindles and struts, bending their rims," Barrett said.

Tow truck drivers are keeping busy, too. During last week's cold snap, truck drivers were busy giving boosts. Now, they are pulling customers out of the ditch.

"(Monday night) we were really busy. The conditions got so bad between Regina and Moose Jaw that trucks weren't going out. They were just picking up passengers and bringing them in," said Lisa Wilson-Sturm, director of communications for CAA.

Visibility was so bad Monday night that it was deemed too dangerous to drive on the highway. It wasn't until Tuesday morning that tow truck drivers could go back on the highway to pull vehicles out of the snow.

"People are slipping and sliding and getting stuck in snow banks. It sounds obvious but people need to slow down," Wilson-Sturm said.

She recommended checking road conditions before going out and avoiding the highways in nasty weather. Slowing down and leaving more space between the vehicle in front of you is a must on icy days, she said.

"Pack an emergency kit with blankets, candles and food," said Wilson-Sturm, "And if you are going on the highway, make sure you have a full tank of gas."

Matthew Barton can be reached at 691-1258.

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    Liza
    - September 18th, 2009 at 18:04:58

    your right 1st ave is brutal, tried to change lanes today in between fairford and ominica ended up drivinhg in the middle.... this CITY needs to get things together... So who's resposible when you are bottoming out... and doing damage to your car. Oh I forgot. NOT THE CITY

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    Disgusted
    - September 18th, 2009 at 17:56:51

    City crews are doing a good job with what resources they have been given, but the attitude of this Council (5) toward keeping our streets passable is disgusting!! Since when should a person have to own a 4X4 vehicle in order to get anywhere in a City?? Another example of why this incompetent group of councillors need to be removed from office - the sooner the better!

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    John
    - September 18th, 2009 at 17:54:52

    I couldn`t agree with you more Frank. Any suggestions on how we can go about removing these 5 from office?

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    Help if you would,
    - September 18th, 2009 at 17:45:31

    Hi Everyone,

    Can someone please answer some questions for me please? I am fairly new to the city and experiencing my first winter driving in MJ.

    - I understand the priority street plan, however, do the crews work 24 hours during/after a storm like in other cities? Its my understanding that the city runs a day shift and evening shiftwhy no Night shift? Traffic in minimal to no existent,

    - Garbage Trucks. Many American cities that have extreme winter conditions have gone to plows on the front of their machinery to minimize the build up on
    residential streets and roadways.

    - The city of MJ has a large staff, utilize these staff accordingly. I have seen on many occasions three to four people working on jobs that would take no more than two people. Have these people running trucks, plows etc even if some have to be rented during a storm period.

    - The city has to re-visit their snow removal policy and be sure that efficiency is a priority. Right now our roads are a complete embarrassment. Having traveled to Regina, Saskatoon and Yorkton is the past week I am sad to report that their roads are in much better shape than ours.

    Does it alarm anyone else that we are going to be building an arena on a roadway that we cant keep clear now?

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    Steve
    - September 18th, 2009 at 17:45:27

    Where I'm from (Montreal), if there is a snowflake that falls to the ground, there are ten snowplows out looking for it. I was involved in an accident last Wednesday because my tires caught the ruts the wrong way and tossed me into a parked car. You would think that SGI would start getting on the cities back because this is costing them TONS of cash.

    Just a thought.

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    Will
    - September 18th, 2009 at 17:44:01

    When a city of 30000 plus doesn't have reasonable or adequate snow removal is that negligent? Could the taxpayers sue the city for lack of due diligence? Why not do what most cities do - attach plows to all the sanding trucks and plow the roads continuously when it snows. Let homeowners clear their driveway entrances. At least once you got out, you could go somewhere. If you park on the road - be prepared to dig. The situation as it exists is just silly.

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    Jeff
    - September 18th, 2009 at 17:43:37

    Derek ,lots of provinces get more snow than this (in one day) several times a month and have it cleaned up (every street)within 1-2 days including machines that do the sidewalks.If they put plows on the sand trucks they could do the streets as they sanded.

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    Frank
    - September 18th, 2009 at 17:31:51

    I love this town but this coucil is ruining it. It's time for a new city council. 5 of them have to go. Viva la revolution in Moose Jaw!

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    Jamaal
    - September 18th, 2009 at 17:18:59

    'Derek from SK writes: Would anybody like cheese with their wine. You can't compare us to Saskatoon and Regina because we have more snow then they do...'

    Actually Derek, I work in Regina. I commute every day, and I can tell you that they got hit just as hard as we did. The difference being that their city administration is better organized than ours, and has a pretty decent snow removal plan. My co-workers who live there, were whining about a few scattered 5cm ruts until I told them about the ones we have here. That reminds me...I need to take pictures of that mess to show them.

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    Marcie
    - September 18th, 2009 at 17:14:39

    I am very frustrated with the city of Moose Jaw. I don't know how they can be talking about a Multiplex when they can't even manage the roads in the winter. This is not the first winter that citizens aren't happy with road conditions in the winter time. It's a repeat, year after year. Maybe it's time the managers of this city do some homework and find out how real cities manage their roads!

    I am a tax payer in this city. This is a service I pay for. When/if I get in an accident because a corner is glare ice, shouldn't the city bear some responsibility? They are being negligent. I don't care if they have to run round the clock shifts. I don't care if they have to buy extra trucks, hire extra contractors. They collect our funds to provide a service and they are failing miserably!

    Suppose in my job, as a nurse, for which I collect a wage, that I don't do my duties, that I don't meet my obligations. Can I say well, there was too much going on? You aren't getting your medication today because there's too much going on. I wasn't prepared to have x amount of patients, yet that are that many beds and staff for that many beds. The analogy is no different than a prairie city that is not prepared for snow removal.

    Even more frustrating is that when they come along with the grater and scrape the road down to solid ice, they do not put down sand. I wasn't aware that I pay to drive on a skating rink.

    Smarten up city managers. It's time to be in charge. You work something out with the city workers where you provide around the clock service. People don't stay home on weekends and nights because your workers want to. Some people have to go out!

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    Jim
    - September 18th, 2009 at 17:11:14

    The city streets of Moose Jaw are a safety hazard and the city officials should be ashamed of themselves. Think about it! Getting to the hospital, work or any school in the city of Moose Jaw is a challenge but getting to Tim Horton is no problem once you can get to Main Street. Whats wrong with that Picture? I will remember this at the next election.

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    Jim
    - September 18th, 2009 at 17:06:53

    Lets all remember that the snow removal issue is not about what the City worker isn't doing but what the managers are not telling them to do. The City worker does what he or she is told, someone needs to give direction and the mayor should have done the right thing days ago. Thank You to the City Workers for performing the task of snow removal when asked to do so.

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    Frank
    - September 18th, 2009 at 16:38:17

    I think people should send their bills to the city. Maybe then they'd do something about it. Council voted it down 5-2 last night as usual. On the flip side,at least they're consistent. Roads here are pretty bad in the summer as well. We need a new council!

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    Ken
    - September 18th, 2009 at 16:34:29

    The City trucks drive around all day throwing sand on top of inches of snow, how ridiculous is that? If the streets were plowed first, then maybe the sand would help with traction. Come on, it's not rocket science!! Maybe some City workers should go to the Eastern provinces where 70 cm in 2 days happens all the time to learn how they deal with it. There are many many cities in other provinces that are smaller than Moose Jaw and they manage to plow and clear ALL the streets just fine. Heck, the trucks ran all night when it snowed and sometimes they did each residential street more than twice before 7am. They have the exact same trucks that throw sand. The only difference is that there's a plow in front. I can't believe their policy gives them 3 days to do the highest priority streets and then 4 days for the 2nd highest priority and most residential streets never get done all winter. Come on!! There is no reason for that. If it's cleared while it's fresh, it saves tons of time, sand and trouble later after cars have driven over it a million times. Who cares if the plow leaves snow in your driveway if that's all you have to do to get to cleared streets. The City is definately negligent. Maybe lawsuits for accidents and vehicle damage might speak to them. In my opinion, the City is definately negligent and has not met due diligence when it comes to safely getting around.

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    p
    - September 18th, 2009 at 16:28:21

    My car was hit on friday due to the city streets being the way they are. I have a 9 month old baby who was with me. My car was towed away as it isn't drivable but yet will the city do anything? NO! I have called several times to have the streets cleared and still NOTHING they don't even sand where I live. The day my car was hit so were 5 others on my block alone. What is with this City?
    I lived in Saskatoon for 7 years and not once did I have to drive on streets like this. They had a blizzard one year I was there and they were out even though it was still coming down. All of their streets are plowed.

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    Bottomed Out
    - September 18th, 2009 at 16:24:40

    I have a good question, Why is it that city crews are spending HOURS cleaning off our outdoor skating rinks when you can't drive down any of the streets to get to them? WHERE ARE MY TAX DOLLARS GOING???

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    John Jenson
    - September 18th, 2009 at 16:21:47

    Maybe if some of the citizens of this city who have nothing better to do but post rude remarks and negative oriented comments towards the employees, who wether we like it or not, provide us with the essential services to keep our community running as smoothly as they can given the circumstances, WOULD get out of their little computer rooms and get themselves in check with reality and put their time towards a more useful and helpful cause, pehaps they may find some meaning in thier life. Until then keep your uninformed judgemental comments to yourself, because if they only propell neativity. Finally get off your a$$ and do something about it or quit your biatching.


    LB Junior.

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    tim
    - September 18th, 2009 at 16:19:15

    i don't like the road conditions, but am willing to cut the city some slack. we've had several snowfalls over the last three weeks, and so the city keeps having to go back and start over from square one, before they've finished with the previous one.

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    pissed off
    - September 18th, 2009 at 16:15:22

    i just sent an email to the city of regina and signed by mcbain asking for snow plough help i hope everyone in moose jaw remembers in october voting day to get rid of all of them

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    Cherrie
    - September 18th, 2009 at 16:07:05

    Derek...
    The city of Saskatoon last year and the year before had way more snow then us and their streets were still cleared!
    When you have to take your 3 month old for immunization shots and cant park anywhere because the snow banks are where you are suppose to park so you have to park a block away, then you slip and fall well crossing the street carseat in hand because of the slippery ruts, i believe that makes it a safety hazard.
    When it puts children in danger we really need to look at solutions that would make it better for them... I dont care about the john does crossing the streets and driving, I do care about the safety of my children!

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    Born in Moose Jaw
    - September 18th, 2009 at 16:05:01

    These streets are a mess and they won't clear up til it melts. It's always this way here and the City doesn't care. This morning, there wasn't a plow to be seen downtown or in the Sunningdale area and you can't hardly get down my parents street, they pushed out 6 cars yesterday! Dahlia Crescent will never see the plow and you can't drive a car on it the ruts are too low. Derek, you must be driving something other than a car otherwise you would be feeling the ruts on the bottom of the car and know what others are going thru. I am enjoying my SUV but I do know that without it, I would be in trouble. City Hall, get at it!

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    Derek
    - September 18th, 2009 at 16:04:06

    Would anybody like cheese with their wine. You can't compare us to Saskatoon and Regina because we have more snow then they do. I can hardly keep my drive clear so I don't expect the city to have the streets cleaned after all the snow we had in a week. I know 9th Ave NW was cleaned on Monday and then we got more snow on Tuesday. Get off you high horses, hope on a sled and have some fun.

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    Pappy
    - September 18th, 2009 at 15:45:58

    Hey Everybody....City council could have at least talked about it Monday Night when councilor Luhning brought it up asking for leave to address snow removal.

    But noooooo!....the fab five rejected her request because she votes against the multidebt! Why should citizens be upset?, because right after rejecting an emergency debate on Snow Removal ( by the way it's ploughed right to the front door of the city manager's house), we get a council eager to pass selling hard liquor at Warriors games!

    Vote NO to the Multidebt, and ask council to say YES to SNOW REMOVAL! A very Simple solution for the simple minded majority on council!

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